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Deen Wispa
Screaming War Eagles Incorporated
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Posted - 2012.01.23 22:09:00 -
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Until people stop referring to them as Carebears, you're not going to get one. Too much of a stigma comes with the word 'carebearing'.
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Deen Wispa
Screaming War Eagles Incorporated
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Posted - 2012.01.23 22:46:00 -
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Cass Lie wrote:No carebear (in a sense of no pew pew pvp) representatives, sorry. They are however guys somewhat advocating "the side" of high sec - Trebor for example. He is currently a member of DNS., but they are not your typical null alliance and Trebor has a history of being a long time high sec dweller I believe. Also Meissa, though living in low sec/whs, is sometimes advocating things on behalf of high sec. But both of them see the broader picture of Eve and are not lobbying for one particular group.
The last true carebear representative was Ankh in CSM5 and she was a complete and utter disaster.
Why was Ankh a disaster? I wasn't playing Eve for that long to know.
If you're looking for a CSM representative to be exclusively hisec, then you're not going to find him....or at least one who will get the popular votes.
Better to rally around a few CSMs who have a vested interest in hisec and understands that a viable hisec life is part of a healthy ecosystem that is New Eden.
inb4 this becomes a threadnaught!
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Deen Wispa
Screaming War Eagles Incorporated
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Posted - 2012.01.23 22:49:00 -
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The funny thing is that most of the population is in hisec and not nullsec. With proper grassroots campaigning, outreach, and organization, hisec could rig the CSM voting system in their favor
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Deen Wispa
Screaming War Eagles Incorporated
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Posted - 2012.01.23 23:02:00 -
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Atticus Fynch wrote:Deen Wispa wrote:The funny thing is that most of the population is in hisec and not nullsec. With proper grassroots campaigning, outreach, and organization, hisec could rig the CSM voting system in their favor Interesting point and it may show that hi-sec dwellers are not "aggressive" players in or out of game, resulting in poor political representation. You have to fight to be heard.
I would agree. Aggression wins in this game. Hisec dwellers tend to be reactive rather than proactive. The lack of 'hisec power blocs' doesn't help in non-nullsec citizens being heard. Having said that, it's definitely still possible to win with proper coordination and campaigning.
Btw- does anyone have the official vote counts from last year? I'd like to review those numbers a bit.
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Deen Wispa
Screaming War Eagles Incorporated
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Posted - 2012.01.23 23:28:00 -
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Sicex wrote:Umega wrote:Scatim Helicon wrote:Yeah, carebears have a poor history in the CSM. They do. If you think only null/low CSMs are the power hungry ones.. the past has proven completely otherwise. Being biased to assume only 0.4> aligned CSMs have hidden agendas stemmed from greed. Shouldn't matter where the player who goes up for CSM is rooted in. Sure.. they'll have a better understanding and experince of that area if it suits your personal preference. What should be focused on first, imo.. is a CSM first, understands the core of this game.. and then desires to simply make it a better game. Not better for you, him, her, them, I.. just a flat out better game while keeping the core of what is EVE, intact. Got to understand everything is connected.. null to high and everything that happens inbetween.. and don't create a disconnect between any of it. I keep agreeing with Umega. I had posted this elsewhere too, I wish the CSM would promote all aspects of gameplay within EVE and is promoted into such a role by showing a distinct care for the community and game as a whole. Representative elections don't work this way, but as Umega said - the CSM needs reworking.
I agree. There are some nullsec CSMs who have an interest in all parts of space being developed. Not everyone is bad. I think the issue (for this past CSM) is that Mitanni has publicly come out and made it an either/or proposition. Ex; "You're either with us (nullsec) or againt us."
Propaganda is one thing but the Chairman makes the jobs of other CSM delegates tougher but making statements which polarizes the community as evidenced in the inquiry for a 'hisec-only CSM' delegate.
But then again, you can't really be surprised since he said his RL profession is a lawyer. Lawyers by nature, are antagonistic. I guess this is one of those situations where life imitates a game. Go figure.
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